Heterodox approaches to economic matters have gained increased attention over the past few years including "No Bail Reform," "The Green New Deal" and "Medicare for All." With the Corona Pandemic and looming Corona Depression I think we will see even more alternatives to mainstream economics. The Corona virus has accelerated prisoner release programs. How are these new and proposed Criminal Justice reforms "heterodox" in nature? And do you think we will see more alternatives to "get tough on crime?"