protection. So yeah, for me, the importance of reducing our carbon emissions stems from the need to protect the environment. I see. The nal key distinction you noted was reducing community blackouts. Why is that important to you? Look, up here in the Hume region, we're probably at higher risk of blackouts than a lot of other parts of Victoria. It just comes with the territory, you know? Lots of forest, relatively few transmission lines into the area...it doesn't take much to knock out the power supply. The problem is that when the power goes, so too does our ability to access some of our critical infrastructure. The hospital, for example, might have a backup generator, but does the local GP clinic? Or the local school? What about the traffic lights? Or an elderly person at home who needs power to keep cool in the middle of summer? So, if there's an ability to reduce community blackouts by signing up to an aggregator service, then yeah, count me in as I think it's a way to help keep my community safe. And why is it important that you keep your community safe? Couple of reasons, I suppose. The first is that it's important for people to feel safe and secure in their everyday lives. The second is that a safe community makes things safer for me too. I mean, think about it. Sure, ifl had a battery, I might be fine and dandy at home during a blackout, but what happens if I needed to go somewhere and all the trafc lights are out\":l Or I was sick and needed to see my local GP? If those things aren't working, it doesn't matter that I might have power at home; it would still make my life a bit more dangerous. Thanks. And that brings us to the end of the interview! Interviewees Current DER status: Rooftop solar panels; no Househoid buttery: no Key distinctions identied by in terviewee PEP??? Trade stored power to the grid Supply 'green' power to the grid Reduce community blackouts when we spoke earlier, the rst key distinction you mentioned was trading stored power to the grid. why is that Important? Well, I'd have to spend I don't know how many thousand dollars to get a battery, so it'd be nice if it cauld earn itself a bit of extra money, just so I could pay it off a bit quicker, you know what I'm saying? And I suppose that's one of the benets of signing up to one of these aggregators: they let you trade your power to the grid, which is something you wouldn't otherwise be able to do. And what is the importance of being able to pay off your battery a bit quicker? I guess if I could pay it offa bit quicker, I could, you know, afford more stu. what would be the signicance of that? of what? 0f feeling a bit freer to purchase other things. Well, there's the constant drip...drip...drip of stuff that you buy that you may not necessarily need but which are quite nice to have. Coffees. you know? Your monthly Netfllx subscription. That kind of stuff. And having that freedom to purchase those things is, well. nice. It just brings a sense of enjoyment. I guess. A sense of pleasure. Another ofthe key distinctions you identied was being able to supply green power to the grid. why is that important to you? I suppose it goes down to trying to reduce our carbon emissions, you know? I've been paying a bit of attention to what we need to do to try and avoid climate change, and one of the biggest things the expens are saying is that we have to electrify everything. Our cars, our heating. everything. 0k, great. but that only works it Our supply of power is ooming from green sources. And at the moment, it's not. So yeah, that's what I see as being really key about signing up to one of these aggregators. It's about putting green power back on to the grid during times of the day when there isn't much green power being generated. It's just a small way that I can help \"(1111 reducing our carbon emissions. And what is the importance to you of reducing carbon emissions? This is probably a more oi-d-schoot view but I see us...and by us, I mean humans...as custodians of the environment. I mean, we can't just be using the environment for our own purposes, right? we sharethis pianet with billions upon biliions of other creatures. and just because many of them can't speak for themselves. doesn't mean they aren't worthy of